I've been following this game since build 0.5 or 0.6 (I'm not sure). And man, do I love this story. I absolutely fell in love with Valos and, moreover, I really enjoy MC's personality. Love how the story is going so far and the pace at which the romance develops. I can't wait for the next update!
I've got a question about your menu, like the save and load screen and options screen, I've seen many other types of games with this same type of screen and was wondering if you use a certain system or app to make this game?
I am also having this issue with the Android version; instead of installing, it tries to install an update to an existing app, which I do not have as this' also my first time downloading this VN.
FYI to anyone new to TToF that is having issues installing the Android version: If you have the Lunateria demo installed, you'll need to uninstall it first to install ToFF, cause both packages share the name of "com.org.androidset" :-/
I'm really enjoying the story so far. I see some comments about the artwork but I really enjoyed the art and the world created, [spoiler] the details about the hand in the water was really nice, usually in other furry games they don't included this details about another species, so that was a nice touch. The only thing that I really hated was the scene with the two dragons which left a bitter taste in my mouth, I really disliked and felt cheated on, it honestly made me want to not get with Valos but that's just my opinion [/spoiler]. This led me to think if Valos is going to be the only love interest in this story or is it just the only one so far? I enjoyed the interactions with Hershel so maybe he could be one, if you guys are planning to add more routes.
At that point they haven't confessed anything to each other. And after that, the protagonist does feel a tinge of envy, at first, when Elsyn comes to the hideout, thinking they'll go at it again. I'm a hundred percent monogamous-minded myself, but I don't mind this at all (much less than in Adastra), especially since Elsyn is looking for his lover who may or may not be female... If scenes like that annoy you in the future, you might want to check out the youtube channel Jubilee, who recently made an episode of prostitutes/sex workers vs. purists/virgins. Regrettably the virgins were all religious, so it just makes sense for them.
It's a great channel for every adult. You'll see...
I did like what has been released so far, but why did the [spoiler] other dragon get a scene with Valos before the MC did?[/spoiler] Feels a little like a slap in the face not gonna lie. But it's still a cute story, and i'm happy the MC isn't a complete pushover, that's always nice. Looking forward to more!
I feel like that too, like... you dont need to describe it that well or even make a cg for that.... But I guess thats what please the majority of the people who play these nsfw games...
Hell, even a kiss or hand holding scene with Valos would be good to have before we see [spoiler] the other dragon giving him sloppy[/spoiler]. I'm not gonna have hardcore romantic feelings for this dragon when hes getting it on with other dudes, before we even had a chance to talk to him about it. The hot springs scene would have been a perfect time to even get in a quick kiss or just talk about feelings before that
I get that, but then later [spoiler] Valos says that he's had feelings for MC since they met basically, and if anything it was just a personal opinion that regardless of whether or not it's the social norm for them I personally wasn't gonna fall head over heels for him if he couldn't try to express those feelings for me first over the other dragon he's found[/spoiler]. I'm not ragging on the game or anything, I quite like the characters and world building, I was just noting the one actual complaint I did have about it so far
The "Amicus x Neferu" scene was done to protect the MC in case shit hit the fan...But I was furious when I saw that the first time, I was about to strangle Amicus from the screen lol
I like your VN.. the character style art.. This is my truth feed back not gonna lie, it nice story line and may be you add some background art especially it the forest scene and the transition of the character when gone or appear in the screen ( for me its annoy me a little) and the expression of the character you may work that.. Little work.. And i experience a minor bug
OVERALL : yeah this VN is highly recommended and i love it specifically in fantasy vn.. Like this. And thank you for sharing im always looking forward.... Sending virtual hug to u.. ❤️❤️ (sorry for bad English, because English is not my native language)
We're currently planning for a public release in late May and a patron release in early May. Yes, we are working on an art gallery, which I hope to have ready for the next public release!
This is pretty good, I like it, though its a shame. The rhino looks very good but unfortunately he's a jerk cuz I really like the look of him. I guess there's no chance of changing him though could have made a nice April 1st joke that he gets what he wants. What a shame guess I'll just keep it a fantasy LoL the rest is still coming together nicely so keep up the good work
Every month I read a new chapter,I get more and more into the story and art designs. I only have three words to say, stupendous,marvelous and astonishing.
Alright… There is so much I have to say!
First off, I would like to point out that this is my opinion and a critique of your Visual Novel. I know many developers might not like criticism to be added, but use it as a means to try to better your self in your projects and detect problems that make a project stay behind easier. Leaving that aside.
The good:
Your characters, they might not be completely fully created or for now lack certain familiarity with people… (It might be personal in my case to be honest) They are good enough to bring the concept of them, yet I feel they need a little more background.
The music over all doesn’t distract or ruin the scenes so far, and to tell the truth they blend a bit too well… It doesn’t convey emotion behind it. If these songs are of your making then they do pretty well, just that there is no hint of feeling behind. Now I’m not trying to insult but, it doesn’t add to the atmosphere of the scenes sometimes.
Art design, it has its own charm I’m not going to lie it requires some rework, but it has its own charm to it. I quite like the backgrounds in the forest, they convey only what’s necessary. The characters are well detail, but there seems to be clashing inconsistencies sometimes.
The bad:
Narrative wise, it’s doing good… But, there is so much left behind, some scenes could use a little more description. What I mean is that makes the reader use imagination if there is no art for it. Create the scene add the feeling of nature, create a feel that adds and makes the reader feel that he is there.
Now, I know narrative in extensive description is bad, but there is a fine balance to transport the reader and feel the story home. So far it does its purpose, but it feels that there was some hesitation.
Overall: Not a bad Visual novel, I would say that it’s a bit fast passed between interactions, is living at the moment more than a memory. IT has its own charm, but it clearly needs some work in the background.
Hello! Thank you for playing and the feedback it is greatly appreciated. As previously said, the VN is still in early development and has not yet been completely released, so expect changes and improvements before the official release.
I really like the game so far (even though I haven't been into furry before, I somehow ended up hooked on this story)! I'm looking forward to the next update.
Really liked this game so far, can't wait to see what direction it is taking. One unintentionally funny thing, the main character at some point says: "Like a car without wheels". Pretty sure you meant cart or something else lol. Great game!
It was indeed meant to say "cart" haha. Hopefully nobody thought they have modern vehicles in this setting. It's already been corrected in the upcoming version, but thank you for pointing it out.
This comment feels to me like you’re picking out one color in a painting and asking why everybody paints everything red. Especially since two of the VNs you mention have non-jerk options. (Though yes, they all have fairly weak protagonists.)
But the short answer is: Because it’s popular.
What do you wish had happened differently? I or someone may be able to recommend something more to your taste.
Okay, this sounds like you want a few main things:
Very thorough world-building
A heroic and inspiring protagonist, not a depressing or helpless one
No major relationship drama
I suspect some degree of relationship drama is inherent to the Romance genre. 😕 And while there are a couple VNs that have strong protagonists, I cannot think of ANY that have the level of coherent world-building you seem to be looking for. You spent a long time explaining how TToF isn’t like the real world—if that is a problem for you then any kind of fantasy or SciFi will not work at all, and your best option is contemporary stories that are set in the real world.
To that end, I would recommend these:
Ocean Avenue - similar to EA, but the protagonist starts with goals and tries to achieve them
After Years - has no jerks and is low on drama. Kegar is a supportive wingman, and the protagonist does stand up for himself sometimes
You might also like Santa Lucia, but I haven’t played that one in a while so I’m not confident in that recommendation. Another contemporary one with an active protagonist is London’s Aesop, but it has some fantasy elements and is currently on hiatus.
TBH I think you’re more likely to find what you want in contemporary romance novel novels, not furry VNs.
If you like fantasy and can tolerate non-real worlds, then I don’t really understand half the things you found wrong with TToF, because they are issues with the setting not matching the real world. (The other half are issues of human nature/behavior and I agree they probably could be better.)
I’ve heard of Grove but never played it. But also it looks like an RPG, not a VN? If you want more agency, that definitely would be the way to go. Unfortunately I don’t really play many of those.
For SF/F I might recommend Lyre, which is kind of like Adastra, except the wolf isn’t a jerk so there’s no drama with him. (All drama is with the environment instead.) I had issues with the world not making sense though, so you might also.
If you’re okay with the superhero genre then Super Nova could be good. Short so far but the protagonist is moderately strong and only 1/3 of the BFs is an ass.
I have others I like more, but they either have weaker protagonists or way more relationship issues and drama, which you seemed not to like so much?
One thing I don't get is when people try to apply our society's rules into a fantasy world. The genre is fantasy, it's meant to be unrealistic/different to todays principles. It's not needed, especially when the VN itself is slowly explaining the world and how everything works.
Just discovered this VN in the middle of a crisis and this story have tugged me in like a child. Thank you for your sharing your work and I am eager to know what's next!
I guess it's character development? At first he was like "i trust no one" but after getting to know more people like valos and hershel he starts becoming more trustful... ??
Based on build .6 he's really conflicted because of a very obviously SHIT upbringing. But he's still in the mode where he is not able to recognize that his upbringing was bad (something that's often true of abuse survivors who also tend to make decisions and have attitudes reflective of that abuse.)
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Humans are so damn ignorant, I swear.
Why are they like this...?
I've been following this game since build 0.5 or 0.6 (I'm not sure). And man, do I love this story. I absolutely fell in love with Valos and, moreover, I really enjoy MC's personality. Love how the story is going so far and the pace at which the romance develops. I can't wait for the next update!
I've got a question about your menu, like the save and load screen and options screen, I've seen many other types of games with this same type of screen and was wondering if you use a certain system or app to make this game?
We use Renpy to create this VN.
is there going to be love scenes with our character (sam) and the lovely dragon ?????
Spoiler
Since there already was a scene between Valos and Relsyn, you can bet that steamy, hot action will happen in the forseeable future :3
Not speaking for the creators, though~
I found this game yesterday and I had forgotten how nice it was when there was already some content to binge of a great game.
Wish you team everything will be fine
There was a different menu theme in earlier releases that I really liked, do you have a file for the theme?
aree there any NSFW content? just asking to be sure :x
Yes
Can't wait to play it when the update come on
woo new build can't wait to play it
Thankyou. Wonderful game lovely characters and story. Thank you🙂
I Have a problema instaling the Android version
Says about upgrade the app but this is the first time i download.
I already download again but is the same problema. Please help me
can you send a screenshot of the problem? I haven't heard of this error before so..
I am also having this issue with the Android version; instead of installing, it tries to install an update to an existing app, which I do not have as this' also my first time downloading this VN.
FYI to anyone new to TToF that is having issues installing the Android version: If you have the Lunateria demo installed, you'll need to uninstall it first to install ToFF, cause both packages share the name of "com.org.androidset" :-/
how many love interest
1,
Is it wrong that I really wanted to surrender and submit to the big massive brawny bandit 😳
No, but why would you want to do that when just a few moment later you would meet an even better husbando? :-p
I'm really enjoying the story so far. I see some comments about the artwork but I really enjoyed the art and the world created, [spoiler] the details about the hand in the water was really nice, usually in other furry games they don't included this details about another species, so that was a nice touch. The only thing that I really hated was the scene with the two dragons which left a bitter taste in my mouth, I really disliked and felt cheated on, it honestly made me want to not get with Valos but that's just my opinion [/spoiler]. This led me to think if Valos is going to be the only love interest in this story or is it just the only one so far? I enjoyed the interactions with Hershel so maybe he could be one, if you guys are planning to add more routes.
At that point they haven't confessed anything to each other. And after that, the protagonist does feel a tinge of envy, at first, when Elsyn comes to the hideout, thinking they'll go at it again. I'm a hundred percent monogamous-minded myself, but I don't mind this at all (much less than in Adastra), especially since Elsyn is looking for his lover who may or may not be female... If scenes like that annoy you in the future, you might want to check out the youtube channel Jubilee, who recently made an episode of prostitutes/sex workers vs. purists/virgins. Regrettably the virgins were all religious, so it just makes sense for them.
It's a great channel for every adult. You'll see...
What is the save folder on android? I need to copy my save files over from my pc
Hi, when is the next update ?. Greetings
Is this game still in development or has it fallen to the wayside?
Still is. Ongoing furry visual novels take long time to make
bruh I felt like I got cheated on
I did like what has been released so far, but why did the [spoiler] other dragon get a scene with Valos before the MC did?[/spoiler] Feels a little like a slap in the face not gonna lie. But it's still a cute story, and i'm happy the MC isn't a complete pushover, that's always nice. Looking forward to more!
I feel like that too, like... you dont need to describe it that well or even make a cg for that.... But I guess thats what please the majority of the people who play these nsfw games...
Hell, even a kiss or hand holding scene with Valos would be good to have before we see [spoiler] the other dragon giving him sloppy[/spoiler]. I'm not gonna have hardcore romantic feelings for this dragon when hes getting it on with other dudes, before we even had a chance to talk to him about it. The hot springs scene would have been a perfect time to even get in a quick kiss or just talk about feelings before that
Either its just a quick fap, or a part of setting that highlights the difference in moral norms between dragons and other species. Hope its the latter
I get that, but then later [spoiler] Valos says that he's had feelings for MC since they met basically, and if anything it was just a personal opinion that regardless of whether or not it's the social norm for them I personally wasn't gonna fall head over heels for him if he couldn't try to express those feelings for me first over the other dragon he's found[/spoiler]. I'm not ragging on the game or anything, I quite like the characters and world building, I was just noting the one actual complaint I did have about it so far
Seems like Amicus x Neferu situation all over again, except without a protagonist making big deal about it
The "Amicus x Neferu" scene was done to protect the MC in case shit hit the fan...But I was furious when I saw that the first time, I was about to strangle Amicus from the screen lol
Let's just hope Valos isn't a general manwhore..
big bad dragon protecting his treasure (us) 0w0
I like your VN.. the character style art.. This is my truth feed back not gonna lie, it nice story line and may be you add some background art especially it the forest scene and the transition of the character when gone or appear in the screen ( for me its annoy me a little) and the expression of the character you may work that.. Little work.. And i experience a minor bug
OVERALL : yeah this VN is highly recommended and i love it specifically in fantasy vn.. Like this. And thank you for sharing im always looking forward.... Sending virtual hug to u.. ❤️❤️ (sorry for bad English, because English is not my native language)
When is the next public build going to be released? Can you make a gallery we can look at in the VN?
We're currently planning for a public release in late May and a patron release in early May. Yes, we are working on an art gallery, which I hope to have ready for the next public release!
This is pretty good, I like it, though its a shame. The rhino looks very good but unfortunately he's a jerk cuz I really like the look of him. I guess there's no chance of changing him though could have made a nice April 1st joke that he gets what he wants. What a shame guess I'll just keep it a fantasy LoL the rest is still coming together nicely so keep up the good work
Daaaaaaammmnnn This is Crazy i Thought ive Been Reading VN Like Forever anyone Alike Us Do That...
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Just Me Okay ;-;
Dang I was really shipping valos and the fox too... /j
i love the story and stupid question but when come the next update O.O
I love the story and I loved the most recent update. Looking forward to the next one!
Every month I read a new chapter,I get more and more into the story and art designs. I only have three words to say, stupendous,marvelous and astonishing.
Alright… There is so much I have to say! First off, I would like to point out that this is my opinion and a critique of your Visual Novel. I know many developers might not like criticism to be added, but use it as a means to try to better your self in your projects and detect problems that make a project stay behind easier. Leaving that aside.
The good: Your characters, they might not be completely fully created or for now lack certain familiarity with people… (It might be personal in my case to be honest) They are good enough to bring the concept of them, yet I feel they need a little more background.
The music over all doesn’t distract or ruin the scenes so far, and to tell the truth they blend a bit too well… It doesn’t convey emotion behind it. If these songs are of your making then they do pretty well, just that there is no hint of feeling behind. Now I’m not trying to insult but, it doesn’t add to the atmosphere of the scenes sometimes.
Art design, it has its own charm I’m not going to lie it requires some rework, but it has its own charm to it. I quite like the backgrounds in the forest, they convey only what’s necessary. The characters are well detail, but there seems to be clashing inconsistencies sometimes.
The bad: Narrative wise, it’s doing good… But, there is so much left behind, some scenes could use a little more description. What I mean is that makes the reader use imagination if there is no art for it. Create the scene add the feeling of nature, create a feel that adds and makes the reader feel that he is there.
Now, I know narrative in extensive description is bad, but there is a fine balance to transport the reader and feel the story home. So far it does its purpose, but it feels that there was some hesitation.
Overall: Not a bad Visual novel, I would say that it’s a bit fast passed between interactions, is living at the moment more than a memory. IT has its own charm, but it clearly needs some work in the background.
Hello! Thank you for playing and the feedback it is greatly appreciated. As previously said, the VN is still in early development and has not yet been completely released, so expect changes and improvements before the official release.
At first I read the title of this game as 'The Castle of Frog'
I had to visit and leave a comment here just because of that
I really like the game so far (even though I haven't been into furry before, I somehow ended up hooked on this story)! I'm looking forward to the next update.
Really liked this game so far, can't wait to see what direction it is taking. One unintentionally funny thing, the main character at some point says: "Like a car without wheels". Pretty sure you meant cart or something else lol. Great game!
It was indeed meant to say "cart" haha. Hopefully nobody thought they have modern vehicles in this setting.
It's already been corrected in the upcoming version, but thank you for pointing it out.
That’s fantastic, didn’t mean for it to sound annoying. Looking forward to the update!
Hope you feel better soon 🌹
it might be spoiler
im kinda sad that our dragon is kinda doing it with other first TwT
tho who know what happen but personally it kinda heart breaking and we dont have choice to "ask about it" or "lie about nothing had happen"
I feel you.
XD right. but we cant judge the work.
we here to support and give opinion
I see I m not the only one. Like every VN just start to get monotonous. Same story, same drama just different sex scenes :<
This comment feels to me like you’re picking out one color in a painting and asking why everybody paints everything red. Especially since two of the VNs you mention have non-jerk options. (Though yes, they all have fairly weak protagonists.)
But the short answer is: Because it’s popular.
What do you wish had happened differently? I or someone may be able to recommend something more to your taste.
Okay, this sounds like you want a few main things:
I suspect some degree of relationship drama is inherent to the Romance genre. 😕 And while there are a couple VNs that have strong protagonists, I cannot think of ANY that have the level of coherent world-building you seem to be looking for. You spent a long time explaining how TToF isn’t like the real world—if that is a problem for you then any kind of fantasy or SciFi will not work at all, and your best option is contemporary stories that are set in the real world.
To that end, I would recommend these:
Ocean Avenue - similar to EA, but the protagonist starts with goals and tries to achieve them
After Years - has no jerks and is low on drama. Kegar is a supportive wingman, and the protagonist does stand up for himself sometimes
You might also like Santa Lucia, but I haven’t played that one in a while so I’m not confident in that recommendation. Another contemporary one with an active protagonist is London’s Aesop, but it has some fantasy elements and is currently on hiatus.
TBH I think you’re more likely to find what you want in contemporary romance novel novels, not furry VNs.
If you like fantasy and can tolerate non-real worlds, then I don’t really understand half the things you found wrong with TToF, because they are issues with the setting not matching the real world. (The other half are issues of human nature/behavior and I agree they probably could be better.)
I’ve heard of Grove but never played it. But also it looks like an RPG, not a VN? If you want more agency, that definitely would be the way to go. Unfortunately I don’t really play many of those.
For SF/F I might recommend Lyre, which is kind of like Adastra, except the wolf isn’t a jerk so there’s no drama with him. (All drama is with the environment instead.) I had issues with the world not making sense though, so you might also.
If you’re okay with the superhero genre then Super Nova could be good. Short so far but the protagonist is moderately strong and only 1/3 of the BFs is an ass.
I have others I like more, but they either have weaker protagonists or way more relationship issues and drama, which you seemed not to like so much?
One thing I don't get is when people try to apply our society's rules into a fantasy world. The genre is fantasy, it's meant to be unrealistic/different to todays principles. It's not needed, especially when the VN itself is slowly explaining the world and how everything works.
Just discovered this VN in the middle of a crisis and this story have tugged me in like a child. Thank you for your sharing your work and I am eager to know what's next!
When will the next update be?
An announcement will be made soon concerning the next update.
I guess it's character development? At first he was like "i trust no one" but after getting to know more people like valos and hershel he starts becoming more trustful... ??
Based on build .6 he's really conflicted because of a very obviously SHIT upbringing. But he's still in the mode where he is not able to recognize that his upbringing was bad (something that's often true of abuse survivors who also tend to make decisions and have attitudes reflective of that abuse.)